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Gale Vanguard by EnigmaticThief Gale Vanguard by EnigmaticThief
A group piece featuring, from left to right, :iconzalloy:, my own character, and :icondenvek:

Whew! This took a while to complete, but I'm proud of how it turned out. Taking some lessons learned from producing my previous group commission piece, Blazing Knights, I altered the way I went about drawing this. Many troubles I had in producing BK occurred in the inking stage, mainly because the surface of the paper I used had degraded over time and didn't accept the ink as smoothly. So, this time I made a point of planning out the figures and details in advance before making the under sketch, and then moving into inking ASAP. While in this piece I went back to more of my traditional techniques, I did use a little bit of ink mixed with water to color in Za's iris.

Like the BK group pic, the position of each figure, details such as facial expression, and the contrast between the three figures are all in there for a reason. How this piece contrasts with "Blazing Knights" is also significant, if you want to take another look at it. Spot that symbolism! My concept for the group was to have them and significant items for sort of a sideways "S" shape, looking down from a slightly high angle. However, as I progressed with the sketch and tried to incorporate the various elements Dave and Za wanted, things seemed to settle into a more standard perspective; blarg. While not quite what I had envisioned at first, the basic shape is still there if you follow the right features.

While I had all the details I needed for Dave and Za, Matthew's pose was up in the air until just before I started drawing. Getting his connection to Dave established was relatively simple, but I was really stumped as to how to match that with Za because of her positioning. A hand down at the hip or on her belly would send the wrong message, as would leaving the viewer to assume he might be grabbing her breast. The problem resolved itself, however, when I reworked Za's hair. The way it sweeps back first had me draw it much larger in back, in turn making her head look too big. After some changes, and with a clearer view of her arm, I finally had somewhere to put Matthew's right hand.

Well, I hope you enjoy it as much as I had fun drawing it. As always, comments and critiques are welcome!
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thereisnosaurus Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2009
no worries. I recognize that working in pencils as you do doing things like undersketches and marionette sketches is tricky, but perhaps give it a shot, or gesture drawings. it may help to give more flow to your work, it certainly helped mine go from 2d straights to more free-flowing movement and posture
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thereisnosaurus Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
it's a nice bit of work, but I can't help but think it's not as good as some of your other work. The proportions seem a little off and the overall feel is very static, with the three simply lined up almost shoulder to shoulder. Their poses are supposed to be posey and dynamic, but unfortunately I think that accents the fact that compositionally they're not so.

The clothes on the two males are fairly so so as well, on your character they seem rather flat, but well designed, leading to him looking like a blueprint or design as opposed to a 3d person. On dave, he suffers from uberstarchitis, namely a lack of folding of clothing. Any uniform that baggy is going to have a bit more bulk to it, and consequently ripples. This makes him look even more static and kind of detracts from the commando/knifeleetmeister feel.

However, complements on the lady, who is pretty well done indeed, perhaps a slightly overlarge head but nothing to whinge about. also on the weaponry, pets and accessories, which are all very well designed and proportioned.
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EnigmaticThief Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm sorry that this piece didn't do as much for you, Saurus. As for the composition, I suppose in the effort to make it distinct from the Blazing Knights piece, as well as a subconscious rush, I ended up making sub-par choices. In reference to Dave, I didn't feel like I had as many options for him because of his uniformly black outfit, so I didn't include as much detail there. Thanks for the critique.
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ArtisticWound Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
Your overall composition is nice, the only issue I have is with the fourth knife that is closer to the viewer. It has a really thick blade, unlike the 2nd knife which is thin where you a have 3/4 view with a slight above view.
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EnigmaticThief Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh yeah, now that you mention it... I suppose I rushed through that portion. Thanks for pointing that out, Lupe.
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VkmSpouge Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009
Huge sword. I like the detail on the handle.
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EnigmaticThief Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks, Spouge.
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RiniSapphire Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2009
Better perspective than I can do!;p It's really good! And, I like how you did the hair. Great texture and design =)
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EnigmaticThief Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you very much, Rini.
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RiniSapphire Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2009
You're very welcome, Enigma :D
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